Meanwhile, the Ukraine appears to be in the same place as Russia.
Not a surprise: Ukraine has been tied together with Russia for most of the last 100 years (i.e. as part of the Soviet Union) and Turnings are emergent phenomena of cultures. That is, to the extent a nation is part of a larger group unified by communication, politics, and/or cultural affinities, their turnings will follow that larger group. (Conversely, if a group of people breaks away, they may drift into a different turning pattern.)
Here, though, the Awakening protests are already heading into 1968, whereas Russia protests appears to have barely started by comparison. They have had both victories and defeats, although it’s not obvious what the end game will look like. They are trying to redo their democracy to be parliamentary (which I recall started in the U.S. around our last Awakening), getting rid of corrupt leaders, and ensuring that protest can continue. Which sounds quite like the U.S. about 40 years ago.
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